The “Mama’s Family” Houses

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I have dreamed of writing this post for so long!  One of the locations I get asked about the most (I literally get emails and comments about it all the time!) is the house that portrayed Thelma Harper’s (Vicki Lawrence) residence during the first two seasons of Mama’s Family.  For those who aren’t familiar with the series and its locales, three different dwellings were actually used to represent the Harper family home throughout the show’s six-year run.  Two of them have long been well-documented online.  I even blogged about the most recognizable of the three (pictured above) back in April 2009.  The third, though, which was featured in the series’ original opening credits, as well as all Season 1 and 2 establishing shots, remained elusive.  While I logged quite a few hours searching for it over the years, I never had any luck pinpointing it, largely due to the fact that the only video I could find of the initial opening was an extremely poor quality YouTube clip.  Then, last week, I received a tweet from @RLXREI asking about the locale and I thought I should revisit the hunt.  This time, luck was on my side.  (As I mentioned in Monday’s post, the stalking gods have seriously been smiling down on me as of late.)

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The first thing I did this go round was look for a high quality version of the original opening and, lo and behold, found a fairly decent upload of the pilot episode on Dailymotion.  Upon initially viewing the low quality credits, I believed Mama’s house was located in Los Angeles, most likely in Hancock Park and its environs.  But as soon as I watched the higher-res version and saw the lack of fencing and general openness of Mama’s front yard, as well as of the neighboring residences, I knew that the property had to be somewhere outside of California.  In a fortuitous move, I headed back over to the YouTube clip to see if any comments had been posted about the home.  As it turns out, there were several – and my stomach caught in my throat when I saw that a user named “Kelly Frech” had responded to a query stating that she had grown up in one of the residences shown in the intro.  Kelly was even kind enough to provide some location information, stating that filming took place on West 59th Street in Kansas City, Missouri.

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Not knowing anything about Kansas City or where to begin searching on West 59th (which runs for miles!), I headed over to Google Maps, randomly dropped the little yellow Street View man into a spot on the road, and my mouth dropped.  There, right before my eyes, was the Harper home!  Though I had picked the spot arbitrarily, fate had led me right to the Mama’s Family house, which I am thrilled to finally be able to report is located at 18 West 59th Street in Kansas City, Missouri!  Thank you, Kelly Frech!  Amazingly, per the Street View imagery above and below, the residence looks exactly the same today as it did when Mama’s Family originally aired in 1983!

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The other houses seen in the opening credits are located just up the road to the west.

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Because Mama’s Family was lensed in L.A., cast and crew could not utilize the Kansas City house for on location shots.  So they found a pad closer to home – at 675 South Oakland Avenue in Pasadena, to be exact – to stand in for it when called for in an episode.  That house is pictured below.  Oddly, it does not resemble the Missouri dwelling in the slightest, though it was typically only featured in tight shots, so not much of it was ever shown.

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The Oakland Avenue residence appeared in a handful of Season 1 and 2 episodes, including “Mama Runs for Mayor: Part 1” (pictured above) and “Mama Buys a Car” (pictured below).  In the latter, we get one of the only full shots of the home shown on the series.

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Due to low ratings, Mama’s Family was cancelled in 1984, after a scant two seasonsThat should have been the end of the story, but in an innovative move, producer Joe Hamilton decided to try reviving the series via first-run syndication two years later.  The revamped show, complete with a new opening and a new Harper residence (pictured below), premiered on September 27th, 1986.  It was a resounding success and went on to air 100 episodes over the course of four seasons before ending its series run in 1990.

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The residence utilized during those final four seasons can be found at 1027 Montrose Avenue in South Pasadena.

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Interestingly, Mama’s Family’s original opening was replaced with the new one in all of the Season 1 and 2 episodes that aired in syndication, which is why audiences are most familiar with the Montrose Avenue house and why many do not even realize that a different home was ever utilized.

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The Montrose Ave. residence also appeared – or at least a portion of it did – as Lynda’s (P.J. Soles) home in the 1978 thriller Halloween.  As you can see below, very little of the property was shown in the film.

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Stalk It: The house featured in the first two seasons of Mama’s Family is located at 18 West 59th Street in Kansas City, Missouri.  The residence used in on location filming during those seasons can be found at 675 South Oakland Avenue in Pasadena.  And the property featured in Seasons 3 through 6 (as well as in all syndicated episodes) is at 1027 Montrose Avenue in South Pasadena.

The Mama’s Family House

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Last week I got a challenge to find the house used in the 1980’s television series Mama’s Family.  I had heard a while back that Mama’s house was in Pasadena, but had no idea of its exact location.   After doing a simple Google search, though, I quickly found the address.  Or so I thought.  🙂  According to IMDB, Mama’s house is located at 1019 Montrose Avenue in South Pasadena.  But as I have mentioned before, IMDB has been known to post incorrect information.  And this time was no different.  Oh, Internet Movie Database, why do you so often lead me astray??  🙂

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After thinking I had found the correct location, I grabbed my camera and immediately drove out to South Pasadena to snap some photos of Mama’s house.  But when I arrived at 1019 Montrose Avenue, it quite obviously wasn’t the home where the Harper Family had lived on the show.  Feeling defeated, I got in my car to drive home.  And that’s when I noticed a house just a few doors down from number 1019 that looked a whole lot like Mama’s.   So, I snapped some pics and drove home to compare them to the screen captures I had from the show.  Sure enough, it was the place!  

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The house in South Pasadena was used each week for establishing shots of the Harper home.  The interiors existed only on a soundstage located about 15 miles away on the former KTTV/Fox Television Center lot on Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood.  Sadly, that studio has since been torn down.  The home was also shown each week in the Mama’s Family opening credits, in which Mama would march to the end of her walkway, pick up the morning newspaper, and then proceed to dust it off .  LOL  You can watch the Mama’s Family  intro here.  This same house was also used very briefly as Lynda’s home in the original Halloween movie.

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Even though I haven’t seen an episode of Mama’s Family  in years, I was very excited to be stalking the home, as I have such fond memories of watching the show with my grandma when I was a little girl.  I still remember not being able to wrap my six year old brain around the fact that, in real life, Mama wasn’t truly an old lady.  🙂  It is unbelievable to me that Mama’s house still looks almost EXACTLY the same as it appeared onscreen 26 years ago!   Besides the white picket enclosure, which has since been removed from the porch area, and a blue trim which has been added, the house is pretty much identical to how it appeared on television back in 1983.  And I highly recommend stalking it!

Until next time, Happy Stalking!  🙂

Stalk It: The Mama’s Family  house is located at 1027 Montrose Avenue in South Pasadena.